Friday, July 21, 2006

Entering God's Rest

As we approach Shabbat, let us remember the deeper meaning of rest. Namely, God's rest. And how God links His rest with His mercy.
Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, as at Meribah,
as on the day at Massah in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test and put me to the proof, though they had seen my work. For forty years I loathed that generation and said, "They are a people who go astray in their heart, and they have not known my ways." Therefore I swore in my wrath, "They shall not enter my rest."
Psalm 95:7-11

The author of the book of Hebrews comments:
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on. So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his. Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience.

Y'shua is our peace. He is our rest. We find our rest in the Messiah, who takes away our sin and allows us to enter into the rest prepared for us.


Blogger Sultan Knish said...

ironic that a member of the christian denomination that does not keep the sabbath (which claiming to keep the ten commandments) lectures on shabbat all the while ignoring God's explict commandment to refrain from work on that day

but of course jews for jesus in keeping with the roman church's dictate switched the sabbath over to sunday in honor of the religion of mithras they sprang from

where does our peace come from again?

7/21/2006 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger geoffrobinson said...

I think you overestimate Rome's role in church history, although it has had a big one. The papacy developed over time. Furthermore, there were large sections of the Christian world that were never under the papacy as such.

I'm trying to say this in the nicest possible way: you don't have enough information about Christian history to be making informed comments about the development of Christian doctrine.

Furthermore, Mithras? The message of the Messiah is firmly rooted in the Tanakh and eyewitness testimony of those who knew Jesus.

Have you even read the New Testament? At the very least, you would be able to give a better critique if you read it.

7/21/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Blogger geoffrobinson said...

If interested here is a good article on Mithraism and its alleged influence on the message of Y'shua:

7/22/2006 12:00:00 AM  
Blogger Rich said...

You are very hostile. Did you know that? What are you going to do today to make for peace between Jews and non-Jews? I hope you won't trash other religions and engage in lashon ha-ra. Where does our peace come from? Not from your hostility.

7/22/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Sultan Knish said...

well if I overestimate Rome's role then feel free to tell me why you keep Sunday rather than the Shabbat?

and Rich, peace is premised on non-aggression. Conversion efforts are aggressive. I am peacefull towards those who are peacefull towards me.

7/26/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger Rich said...

How do you know what day I keep? Did you think of asking me?

You are peaceful towards those who are peaceful towards you? Well, did someone force you to start reading this blog?

7/26/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Blogger geoffrobinson said...

I believe Y'shua is our Sabbath rest.

Some keep Sunday. Some still keep Saturday.

7/26/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Blogger Sultan Knish said...

Jews for Jesus keeps sunday so the assumption is valid. Quite a few in the messianic movement are upset with Jews for Jesus over that.

Now G-d gave an explicit commandment regarding the Sabbath and he spelled out refraining from labor. It's even in the ten commandments.

Now you can say jesus is your shabbat, but that doesn't change that you're ignoring what G-d explictly said, unless you think he really didn't mean it and what he actually meant was go to church on sunday instead just like the romans used to do

my question is simple, what is the religious basis for switching the sabbath to sunday and not keeping G-d's command regarding it

7/27/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Moshe ben Avraham said...

My question is: Are my posts distracting you from work? I sometimes forget not everyone is a college student in the summer. If I am too distracting I will stop.

7/27/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Rich said...

Knish doesn't know what day I keep because he never asked.

Moshe asks if his comments are distracting. Actually, they are kind of distracting and annoying.

7/28/2006 08:07:00 AM  

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