Another Example of Conflating Disagreement with Deception
NJ Jewish News:
If Rabbi Carlebach actually read the New Testament, he would have seen that one of the main questions is how Gentiles can believe in the Messiah Jesus without becoming Jews. Jews being Jews and believing in Jesus is just understood.
So I'm not sure what priests he's talking to, but they aren't heeding the Scriptures.
Unlike the quotes above, the ADL is saying its not the message but the tactics.
Ever notice how these tactics aren't specified beyond Jews for Jesus only targets non-observant Jews.
Also, do you notice the repeated insults to non-observant Jews? If they weren't such bad Jews, they wouldn't believe in Jesus.
I wonder what a non-observant Jew would have to say about this accusation. They would probably say they can think for themselves.
So why was Jews for Jesus sending DVDs to the Chasidim?
Well, one blogger I read said the Chasidim must be vulnerable targets. One should tell Rabbi Carlebach that. Why else would Jews for Jesus target them?
Trying to break through this kind of circular logic is incredibly hard.
Maybe, just maybe, Jews for Jesus tries to communicate with everyone about Jesus because Jesus said to preach the gospel to everyone.
And, shock of all shocks, Jews for Jesus even talks to Gentiles about Jesus while out and about on the street. I wonder how they would filter that through their grid.
An appearance by a Jews for Jesus missionary arranged by an evangelical church in South Brunswick angered local Jewish leaders, who pledged to expand counter-missionary education efforts within their own institutions.
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An ad promoting the Calvary Chapel Crossroads appearance by Telchin, founder and former president of the now defunct Stan Telchin Ministries, ran in the Sentinel, a weekly newspaper published by Greater Media Newspapers. In the ad, Telchin describes how he as a Jew reacted when his 21-year-old daughter confessed a belief in Jesus and how the event spurred his own acceptance of Jesus. The ad included a phone number, address, e-mail address, and Web site for Jews for Jesus.
“The ad was so deceptive it made my blood boil,” said Rabbi Mendy Carlebach of the Chabad House of North and South Brunswick. “We cannot tolerate this kind of deception; telling people they can be both Jews and Christians is totally wrong. Even different priests I know are very angry about it because it’s very deceptive.”
If Rabbi Carlebach actually read the New Testament, he would have seen that one of the main questions is how Gentiles can believe in the Messiah Jesus without becoming Jews. Jews being Jews and believing in Jesus is just understood.
So I'm not sure what priests he's talking to, but they aren't heeding the Scriptures.
Unlike the quotes above, the ADL is saying its not the message but the tactics.
According to the ADL and other Jewish and interfaith groups, Jews for Jesus uses “duplicitous” and “ethically immoral” tactics to attract Jews of marginal observance such as many within the Russian immigrant community.
Ever notice how these tactics aren't specified beyond Jews for Jesus only targets non-observant Jews.
Also, do you notice the repeated insults to non-observant Jews? If they weren't such bad Jews, they wouldn't believe in Jesus.
I wonder what a non-observant Jew would have to say about this accusation. They would probably say they can think for themselves.
So why was Jews for Jesus sending DVDs to the Chasidim?
Well, one blogger I read said the Chasidim must be vulnerable targets. One should tell Rabbi Carlebach that. Why else would Jews for Jesus target them?
Trying to break through this kind of circular logic is incredibly hard.
Maybe, just maybe, Jews for Jesus tries to communicate with everyone about Jesus because Jesus said to preach the gospel to everyone.
And, shock of all shocks, Jews for Jesus even talks to Gentiles about Jesus while out and about on the street. I wonder how they would filter that through their grid.
posted by geoffrobinson at 9:24 AM
2 Comments:
I know several people who have read the new testament that don't come close to your interpretations. Such much for your universal rule of thumb: Read the new testament and all will become clear.
I never said that.
But that doesn't mean that the New Testament isn't clear on a particular issue. People's outside traditions, philosophical presuppositions, etc. can distort how one interprets a text. But that doesn't mean the text isn't clear.
On the issue of Jews being Jews and believing in the Messiah it is incredibly clear. Read the book of Acts if you think otherwise.
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